{"id":310641,"date":"2025-12-29T12:52:39","date_gmt":"2025-12-29T11:52:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/?p=310641"},"modified":"2025-12-29T12:53:51","modified_gmt":"2025-12-29T11:53:51","slug":"selon-la-diplomatie-russe-lindependance-de-lukraine-ne-depend-ni-de-ses-dirigeants-ni-de-sa-population","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2025\/12\/29\/selon-la-diplomatie-russe-lindependance-de-lukraine-ne-depend-ni-de-ses-dirigeants-ni-de-sa-population\/","title":{"rendered":"Selon la diplomatie russe, l\u2019ind\u00e9pendance de l\u2019Ukraine ne d\u00e9pend ni de ses dirigeants ni de sa population"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Sergue\u00ef Riabkov, vice-ministre russe des Affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res, a donn\u00e9 un entretien ce vendredi 26 d\u00e9cembre \u00e0 la cha\u00eene de t\u00e9l\u00e9vision publique Rossiya 1. Dans celui-ci, Riabkov remet ouvertement en question la souverainet\u00e9 de l\u2019Ukraine post-guerre en niant le r\u00f4le des dirigeants et de la population ukrainienne apr\u00e8s la fin du conflit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Riabkov consid\u00e8re que la Russie \u00ab&#160;sera amen\u00e9e \u00e0 jouer un r\u00f4le important&#160;\u00bb dans l\u2019avenir de l\u2019Ukraine, notamment pour favoriser ou bien emp\u00eacher son \u00ab&#160;effondrement&#160;\u00bb.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>L\u2019accord de cessez-le-feu qui pourrait \u00e9maner des n\u00e9gociations diplomatiques entre Washington, Kiev et Moscou servirait ainsi, selon Riabkov, \u00e0 remodeler l\u2019\u00c9tat ukrainien de mani\u00e8re \u00e0 prendre en compte les \u00ab&#160;int\u00e9r\u00eats fondamentaux [russes] les plus profonds dans toutes leurs manifestations&#160;\u00bb.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>La position du Kremlin reste \u00e0 ce jour maximaliste&#160;: changement de r\u00e9gime en Ukraine, fin de l\u2019ind\u00e9pendance de Kiev.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n    <div class='mux-player-wrapper' style=\"aspect-ratio:16\/9;\">\n        <div\n            class='mux-player-placeholder' \n            style=\"background-image:url('https:\/\/image.mux.com\/zUU6wRGcogT8qG5fXI4rN3c1xZqmT00HU01ZI6mL427Y00\/thumbnail.png?width=800&#038;height=600&#038;time=');\"\n\n        >\n        <\/div>\n        <mux-player\n            playback-id=\"zUU6wRGcogT8qG5fXI4rN3c1xZqmT00HU01ZI6mL427Y00\"\n            accent-color=\"#dd203c\"\n            metadata-video-title=\"\"\n            metadata-viewer-user-id=\"user-wp\"\n             \n                    >\n        <\/mux-player>\n    <\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Ces \u00e9l\u00e9ments de langage permettent de mettre en exergue une convergence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Les d\u00e9clarations de Trump lors de la conf\u00e9rence de presse conjointe avec Zelensky du dimanche 28 d\u00e9cembre montrent la profondeur de la ligne narrative russe sur la pr\u00e9sidence am\u00e9ricaine.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Donald Trump a ainsi d\u00e9clar\u00e9&#160;: \u00ab&#160;La Russie veut aider. La Russie souhaite la r\u00e9ussite de l&rsquo;Ukraine, cela para\u00eet un peu \u00e9trange. Le pr\u00e9sident Poutine s&rsquo;est montr\u00e9 tr\u00e8s optimiste quant \u00e0 la r\u00e9ussite de l&rsquo;Ukraine&#160;\u00bb.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"iframe-container wp-block-image wp-block-image-medium  iframe-dw\">\n\t<div>\n\t\t<iframe class=\"absolute w-full h-full pin-t pin-l\" title=\"titolo\" aria-label=\"Interactive line chart\" src=\"\/\/datawrapper.dwcdn.net\/VJQv2\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" ><\/iframe>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>L\u2019id\u00e9e que la Russie soit fondamentalement bienveillante vis-\u00e0-vis de \u00ab&#160;ses fr\u00e8res ukrainiens&#160;\u00bb <a href=\"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2022\/08\/29\/le-filtre-russe\/\">a \u00e9t\u00e9 analys\u00e9e par Anna Colin Lebedev<\/a>. Elle revient aujourd\u2019hui comme un \u00e9l\u00e9ment de cadrage narratif partag\u00e9.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Suite \u00e0 sa rencontre avec Zelensky \u00e0 Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump avait dit \u00ab&#160;comprendre&#160;\u00bb le refus de Vladimir Poutine concernant la mise en place d\u2019un cessez-le-feu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Selon le pr\u00e9sident am\u00e9ricain, Poutine ne souhaiterait pas \u00ab&#160;\u00eatre \u00e0 la place&#160;\u00bb du dirigeant qui serait responsable d\u2019une reprise des combats apr\u00e8s un cessez-le-feu.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Il ajoute&#160;: \u00ab&#160;Mais je comprends le pr\u00e9sident Poutine de ce point de vue. Vous savez, il faut comprendre l&rsquo;autre partie. Et vous savez, je suis du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de la paix. Je suis du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de l&rsquo;arr\u00eat de la guerre&#160;\u00bb&nbsp;<span class='whitespace-nowrap'><span id='easy-footnote-1-310641' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2025\/12\/29\/selon-la-diplomatie-russe-lindependance-de-lukraine-ne-depend-ni-de-ses-dirigeants-ni-de-sa-population\/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-310641' title='\u00ab&amp;#160;&lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/tass.com\/world\/2066125&quot;&gt;Trump says he understands Putin who questions need of ceasefire for Ukraine referendum&lt;\/a&gt;&amp;#160;\u00bb, &lt;em&gt;Tass&lt;\/em&gt;, 29 d\u00e9cembre 2025.'><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/span>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Q:Did Putin agree to a ceasefire to allow a referendum&#160;?<br>\u00a0<br>Trump&#160;: Not a ceasefire. He feels that look,you know, they&#39;re fighting and to stop. &amp; then if they have to start again, he doesn&#39;t want to be in that position. I understand Putin from that standpoint<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/k0rFDbsbJv\">pic.twitter.com\/k0rFDbsbJv<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RpsAgainstTrump\/status\/2005406314004979838?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 28, 2025<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Lors de la derni\u00e8re visite de Zelensky aux \u00c9tats-Unis, en octobre, Vladimir Poutine avait programm\u00e9 un appel avec Trump la veille. La m\u00eame chose s\u2019est produite cette fois-ci.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Les deux pr\u00e9sidents ont ainsi mis fin \u00e0 <a href=\"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2025\/12\/18\/trump-et-poutine-ne-se-sont-pas-appeles-depuis-deux-mois-la-periode-la-plus-longue-depuis-le-20-janvier\/\">la p\u00e9riode la plus longue sans contact direct officiel<\/a> depuis le d\u00e9but de l\u2019ann\u00e9e. Leur dernier appel remontait au 16 octobre, soit plus de deux mois auparavant \u2014 le double de la p\u00e9riode moyenne entre chaque appel, qui est de 34 jours.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Aucune autorit\u00e9 am\u00e9ricaine n\u2019a rencontr\u00e9 le pr\u00e9sident Zelensky lors de son atterrissage \u00e0 Miami. Il s\u2019agit d\u2019une possible marque d\u2019\u00e9gard vis-\u00e0-vis de Poutine, qui ne reconna\u00eet pas Zelensky comme un chef d\u2019\u00c9tat l\u00e9gitime.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Les trois personnalit\u00e9s qui ont accueilli le pr\u00e9sident ukrainien \u00e9taient toutes des responsables ukrainiens&#160;: l\u2019ambassadeur, l\u2019attach\u00e9 de d\u00e9fense et le ministre conseiller de Washington.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">On Sat evening, Dec. 27, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his negotiating team arrived in Miami, Florida, before traveling to Mar-a-Lago to meet with U.S. President Donald Trump. They were greeted by Ukraine\u2019s Ambassador, Olga Stefanishyna, her deputy Denys Sienik, and\u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/r9ONfR4Ev9\">pic.twitter.com\/r9ONfR4Ev9<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Kateryna Lisunova (@KaterynaLis) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/KaterynaLis\/status\/2005281104257847790?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 28, 2025<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Malgr\u00e9 les sanctions et le mandat d\u2019arr\u00eat de la Cour p\u00e9nale internationale, Trump avait rencontr\u00e9 Poutine en personne, sur un tapis rouge, \u00e0 Anchorage en Alaska le 15 ao\u00fbt. Il s\u2019agissait de la premi\u00e8re visite du pr\u00e9sident russe sur le sol am\u00e9ricain depuis 2015, lorsqu\u2019il avait rencontr\u00e9 Barack Obama et pris la parole devant l\u2019Assembl\u00e9e g\u00e9n\u00e9rale de l\u2019ONU.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Le dernier entretien \u00e0 la t\u00e9l\u00e9vision du vice-ministre des Affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res, Sergue\u00ef Riabkov, r\u00e9v\u00e8le le maximalisme russe vis-\u00e0-vis de l\u2019avenir de l&rsquo;Ukraine, alors que la Maison-Blanche de Donald Trump continue de s\u2019aligner sur la position de Moscou dans le cadre des n\u00e9gociations diplomatiques avec 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