{"id":209241,"date":"2023-11-21T18:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-11-21T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/?p=209241"},"modified":"2023-11-21T16:36:44","modified_gmt":"2023-11-21T15:36:44","slug":"en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/21\/en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes\/","title":{"rendered":"En amont d\u2019un deuxi\u00e8me hiver de guerre en Ukraine, le spectre de n\u00e9gociations contraintes"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Pour l\u2019Ukraine, une paix avec la Russie ou un cessez-le-feu est inenvisageable tant que l\u2019arm\u00e9e russe sera pr\u00e9sente sur le territoire ukrainien. Apr\u00e8s presque 21 mois d\u2019invasion \u00e0 grande \u00e9chelle du pays, Moscou contr\u00f4le 17,5&#160;% du territoire ukrainien, soit 10&#160;% de plus qu\u2019en f\u00e9vrier 2022.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"iframe-container wp-block-image wp-block-image-medium \">\n\t<div>\n\t\t<iframe class=\"absolute w-full h-full pin-t pin-l\" title=\"titolo\" aria-label=\"Interactive line chart\" src=\"\/\/flo.uri.sh\/visualisation\/14701390\/embed\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Les pays occidentaux apportant une aide militaire \u00e0 Kiev continuent de t\u00e9moigner \u00e0 Volodymyr Zelensky de leur soutien inconditionnel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>\u00c0 l\u2019occasion de son premier voyage \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tranger depuis sa nomination comme Secr\u00e9taire d\u2019\u00c9tat aux Affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res, David Cameron s\u2019est rendu \u00e0 Kiev pour garantir \u00e0 Zelensky le soutien militaire du Royaume-Uni \u00ab&#160;pour tout le temps qu\u2019il faudra&#160;\u00bb.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Lundi, c\u2019est le secr\u00e9taire \u00e0 la D\u00e9fense am\u00e9ricain Lloyd Austin et le commandant des forces am\u00e9ricaines en Europe, Christopher Cavoli, qui se sont rendus \u00e0 Kiev pour \u00ab&#160;rassurer les autorit\u00e9s ukrainiennes sur le fait que les \u00c9tats-Unis continueront \u00e0 soutenir l&rsquo;Ukraine&#160;\u00bb&nbsp;<span class='whitespace-nowrap'><span id='easy-footnote-1-209241' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/21\/en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes\/#easy-footnote-bottom-1-209241' title='Joseph Clark, &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/www.defense.gov\/News\/News-Stories\/Article\/Article\/3594932\/austin-reaffirms-us-support-during-ukraine-visit\/&quot;&gt;Austin Reaffirms U.S. Support During Ukraine Visit&lt;\/a&gt;, U.S. Department of Defense, 20 novembre 2023.'><sup>1<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/span>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Aujourd\u2019hui, mardi 21 novembre, le ministre f\u00e9d\u00e9ral allemand de la D\u00e9fense Boris Pistorius et le pr\u00e9sident du Conseil europ\u00e9en Charles Michel sont en d\u00e9placement dans la capitale ukrainienne, tandis que le pays c\u00e9l\u00e8bre les 10 ans de la r\u00e9volution de Ma\u00efdan&nbsp;<span class='whitespace-nowrap'><span id='easy-footnote-2-209241' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/21\/en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes\/#easy-footnote-bottom-2-209241' title='Illia Novikov, \u00ab&amp;#160;&lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/russia-ukraine-war-germany-support-4d75c7984ecd2d55502c8a250bc95353&quot;&gt;Germany\u2019s defense minister is the latest foreign official to visit Kyiv and vow more aid for Ukraine&lt;\/a&gt;&amp;#160;\u00bb, &lt;em&gt;Associated Press&lt;\/em&gt;, 21 novembre 2023.'><sup>2<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/span>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"iframe-container wp-block-image wp-block-image-medium  iframe-dw\">\n\t<div>\n\t\t<iframe class=\"absolute w-full h-full pin-t pin-l\" title=\"titolo\" aria-label=\"Interactive line chart\" src=\"\/\/datawrapper.dwcdn.net\/wmLhI\/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Le dernier paquet d\u2019aide am\u00e9ricaine \u00e0 Kiev annonc\u00e9 par Lloyd Austin, d\u2019un montant de 100 millions de dollars, est faible en comparaison des pr\u00e9c\u00e9dents d\u00e9bloqu\u00e9s par Washington depuis f\u00e9vrier 2022. Tandis que rien ne garantit \u00e0 ce stade que le Congr\u00e8s am\u00e9ricain votera les financements suppl\u00e9mentaires pour l\u2019Ukraine demand\u00e9s par Joe Biden, le Pentagone <a href=\"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/18\/le-soutien-americain-a-lukraine-est-il-menace-par-la-guerre-de-soukkot\/\">arrive progressivement au bout<\/a> des cr\u00e9dits dont il dispose.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Si les \u00c9tats europ\u00e9ens envoient des signaux positifs \u00e0 Kiev d\u2019un point de vue financier, industriel et militaire, ils ne disposent pas de moyens comparables \u00e0 ceux des \u00c9tats-Unis.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Alors que Moscou joue la montre sur le terrain et d\u00e9fend ses positions sans fournir d\u2019efforts offensifs significatifs, la tendance actuelle semble \u00e0 ce stade plut\u00f4t se diriger vers un ralentissement du conflit que vers une acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration de celui-ci.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>La question de la paix dans la guerre russe contre l\u2019Ukraine est tabou tant les cons\u00e9quences \u2014 sans victoire militaire nette pour Kiev \u2014 seraient terribles pour le pays lui-m\u00eame, pour l\u2019architecture de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 internationale et pour les pays voisins de la Russie. Cependant, tandis que les r\u00e9sultats de la contre-offensive ukrainienne lanc\u00e9e cet \u00e9t\u00e9 sont largement insuffisants pour \u00eatre qualifi\u00e9s de victoire, il est difficile de voir \u00e0 ce stade comment l\u2019Ukraine pourrait continuer \u00e0 se d\u00e9fendre contre l\u2019agression russe sans <a href=\"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/02\/une-part-croissante-damericains-considere-que-les-etats-unis-font-trop-pour-aider-lukraine\/\">l\u2019assistance am\u00e9ricaine<\/a> substantielle fournie jusqu\u2019\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"iframe-container wp-block-image wp-block-image-medium  iframe-dw\">\n\t<div>\n\t\t<iframe class=\"absolute w-full h-full pin-t pin-l\" title=\"titolo\" aria-label=\"Interactive line chart\" src=\"\/\/datawrapper.dwcdn.net\/Oiuvx\/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>En Russie, de r\u00e9cents sondages indiquent par ailleurs que, pour la premi\u00e8re fois depuis f\u00e9vrier 2022, la population est plus favorable \u00e0 des n\u00e9gociations de paix qu\u2019\u00e0 la prolongation du conflit&nbsp;<span class='whitespace-nowrap'><span id='easy-footnote-3-209241' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/21\/en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes\/#easy-footnote-bottom-3-209241' title='&lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/russianfield.com\/13volna&quot;&gt;\u0421\u043f\u0435\u0446\u0438\u0430\u043b\u044c\u043d\u0430\u044f \u0432\u043e\u0435\u043d\u043d\u0430\u044f \u043e\u043f\u0435\u0440\u0430\u0446\u0438\u044f&amp;#160;\u00bb \u0432 \u0423\u043a\u0440\u0430\u0438\u043d\u0435&amp;#160;: \u043e\u0442\u043d\u043e\u0448\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u0440\u043e\u0441\u0441\u0438\u044f\u043d. 13 \u0432\u043e\u043b\u043d\u0430 (21-29 \u043e\u043a\u0442\u044f\u0431\u0440\u044f 2023)&lt;\/a&gt;, Russian Field.'><sup>3<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>La confiance des citoyens russes dans leur arm\u00e9e est en baisse de plus de 10 points par rapport \u00e0 l\u2019an dernier parmi ceux qui d\u00e9sapprouvent leurs dirigeants politiques&nbsp;<span class='whitespace-nowrap'><span id='easy-footnote-4-209241' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/21\/en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes\/#easy-footnote-bottom-4-209241' title='Benedict Vigers, &lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/news.gallup.com\/poll\/544586\/russians-confidence-military-dips-2023.aspx&quot;&gt;Russians&amp;rsquo; Confidence in Military Dips in 2023&lt;\/a&gt;, Gallup, 21 novembre 2023.'><sup>4<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/span>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>En Ukraine, la population est quant \u00e0 elle <a href=\"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/10\/06\/ukraine-enquete-dans-une-societe-en-guerre-x\/\">bien plus r\u00e9ticente \u00e0 accepter une paix<\/a> qui aboutirait \u00e0 la reconnaissance d\u2019une annexion de territoires ukrainiens par la Russie.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"iframe-container wp-block-image wp-block-image-medium  iframe-dw\">\n\t<div>\n\t\t<iframe class=\"absolute w-full h-full pin-t pin-l\" title=\"titolo\" aria-label=\"Interactive line chart\" src=\"\/\/datawrapper.dwcdn.net\/ZxC3A\/\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Si ces enqu\u00eates d\u2019opinion fournissent une indication \u2014 imparfaite \u2014 sur la perception des populations, elles ne pr\u00e9supposent n\u00e9anmoins pas des actions de leur gouvernement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Le mois dernier, \u00e0 Malte, les repr\u00e9sentants des autorit\u00e9s ukrainiennes <a href=\"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/10\/28\/la-troisieme-rencontre-internationale-pour-la-paix-en-ukraine-souvre-a-malte-sans-la-chine\/\">ont r\u00e9it\u00e9r\u00e9 leur souhait de partir de la Formule de Paix en dix points<\/a> propos\u00e9e pour la premi\u00e8re fois par Kiev en novembre 2022 pour toutes n\u00e9gociations futures.&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Vladimir Poutine, de son c\u00f4t\u00e9, semble plut\u00f4t souhaiter attendre l&rsquo;essoufflement de l\u2019aide occidentale qui lui permettra d\u2019imposer une paix dict\u00e9e selon ses termes&nbsp;<span class='whitespace-nowrap'><span id='easy-footnote-5-209241' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/21\/en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes\/#easy-footnote-bottom-5-209241' title='Eugene Rumer et Andrew S. Weiss, \u00ab&amp;#160;&lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/world\/russia\/its-time-to-end-magical-thinking-about-russias-defeat-f6d0b8de?mkt_tok=ODEzLVhZVS00MjIAAAGPfHLWVDEvRcPAqTb3K2Ljj094FRhtpdxSll-F3kdSwLam7pyaXWECglTNPwC6yWi7fJe7YP61x5PiMeqSoxWZ4_TvWh77uAQj0JWT0z5-%20%20wsj.com&quot;&gt;It\u2019s Time to End Magical Thinking About Russia\u2019s Defeat&lt;\/a&gt;&amp;#160;\u00bb, &lt;em&gt;The Wall Street Journal&lt;\/em&gt;, 16 novembre 2023.'><sup>5<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/span>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Le Kremlin consid\u00e8re qu\u2019il pourra poursuivre ind\u00e9finiment une guerre en Ukraine \u00ab&#160;en l\u2019absence de conditions pr\u00e9alables \u00e0 un r\u00e8glement par des moyens politiques et diplomatiques&#160;\u00bb&nbsp;<span class='whitespace-nowrap'><span id='easy-footnote-6-209241' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/21\/en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes\/#easy-footnote-bottom-6-209241' title='\u00ab&amp;#160;&lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/tass.ru\/politika\/19252213&quot;&gt;\u041f\u0435\u0441\u043a\u043e\u0432&amp;#160;: \u041a\u0438\u0435\u0432\u0443 \u043f\u043e\u0440\u0430 \u043f\u043e\u043d\u044f\u0442\u044c, \u0447\u0442\u043e \u043f\u043e\u0431\u0435\u0434\u0443 \u043d\u0430 \u043f\u043e\u043b\u0435 \u0431\u043e\u044f \u043d\u0430\u0434 \u0420\u043e\u0441\u0441\u0438\u0435\u0439 \u0438\u043c \u043e\u0434\u0435\u0440\u0436\u0430\u0442\u044c \u043d\u0435 \u0443\u0434\u0430\u0441\u0442\u0441\u044f&lt;\/a&gt;&amp;#160;\u00bb, &lt;em&gt;TASS, &lt;\/em&gt;10 novembre 2023.'><sup>6<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/span>. Si Poutine sera tr\u00e8s certainement r\u00e9\u00e9lu en mars prochain, <a href=\"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/08\/24\/evgueni-prigojine-la-fin-dun-nouveau-russe\/\">la tentative de r\u00e9bellion d\u2019Evgueni Prigogine<\/a> a d\u00e9montr\u00e9 qu\u2019il n\u2019\u00e9tait toutefois pas immunis\u00e9 face \u00e0 d\u2019autres forces politiques et militaires russes.\u00a0<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans l\u2019attente, les Europ\u00e9ens comme les Am\u00e9ricains commenceraient progressivement \u00e0 discuter avec leurs homologues ukrainiens des conditions d\u2019une n\u00e9gociation visant \u00e0 mettre fin \u00e0 la guerre&nbsp;<span class='whitespace-nowrap'><span id='easy-footnote-7-209241' class='easy-footnote-margin-adjust'><\/span><span class='easy-footnote'><a href='https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/21\/en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes\/#easy-footnote-bottom-7-209241' title='Connor Echols, \u00ab&amp;#160;&lt;a href=&quot;https:\/\/responsiblestatecraft.org\/russia-ukraine-peace-talks-2666200768\/&quot;&gt;Diplomacy Watch&amp;#160;: Western pressure on Ukraine grows&lt;\/a&gt;&amp;#160;\u00bb, &lt;em&gt;Responsible Statecraft&lt;\/em&gt;, 10 novembre 2023.'><sup>7<\/sup><\/a><\/span><\/span>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pour Kiev, il n\u2019est pas question de paix tant qu\u2019une partie du territoire ukrainien est sous contr\u00f4le russe. Mais avec un soutien am\u00e9ricain menac\u00e9 et un front quasi-gel\u00e9 depuis plusieurs mois, des n\u00e9gociations aux conditions d\u00e9favorables pour l\u2019Ukraine pourraient-elles s\u2019imposer&#160;&#160;?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2622,"featured_media":209251,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"templates\/post-briefings.php","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_trash_the_other_posts":false,"_yoast_wpseo_estimated-reading-time-minutes":4,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3116],"tags":[],"staff":[],"editorial_format":[],"serie":[],"audience":[],"geo":[1917],"class_list":["post-209241","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-la-guerre-en-ukraine-au-jour-le-jour","geo-europe"],"acf":{"open_in_webview":false,"accent":false},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.1.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>En amont d\u2019un deuxi\u00e8me hiver de guerre en Ukraine, le spectre de n\u00e9gociations contraintes | Le Grand Continent<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/legrandcontinent.eu\/fr\/2023\/11\/21\/en-amont-dun-deuxieme-hiver-de-guerre-en-ukraine-le-spectre-de-negociations-contraintes\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"En amont d\u2019un deuxi\u00e8me hiver de guerre en Ukraine, le spectre de n\u00e9gociations contraintes | Le Grand Continent\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Pour Kiev, il n\u2019est pas question de paix tant qu\u2019une partie du territoire ukrainien est sous contr\u00f4le russe. 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